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The end of omidyar.net: creating new communities

Posted to: Community - General by Thomas Kriese (CCAL30) (2314), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:59:19 PDT
Edited: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:13:28 PDT
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Tags:  +insightful5 +interesting6 the-end transition
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In Spring 2004, Omidyar Network created a set of collaborative tools to facilitate our work as an organization. We found it useful, and a few months later in July 2004, we opened up access to the tool set to anyone and everyone working toward making the world a better place.

We chose the approach of a self-managed community in the hope people would find shared interests and discover their power to make good things happen. Indeed, in the three years since we opened the omidyar.net tool for external use, thousands of members have met, posted, discussed and collaborated in the many groups and discussions and workspace pages on omidyar.net. And while the connections may have been made here, the positive impact has spread to many other online communities as well as real world communities across the globe. Through several experimental and experiential collaborative funding projects, the omidyar.net community has directed thousands of dollars to organizations making good things happen around the world.

This summer, instead of deciding where to direct funding, omidyar.net members will decide how to migrate to other community platforms.

We strongly believe in the power of community-based efforts, and we feel the best way Omidyar Network can continue facilitating the kind of work that's being done both within and through omidyar.net is to empower communities online that are more narrowly focused on specific interests and moderated in a style of their own preference.

One of the things we've learned over the last three years is that self-managed communities can work. Given the tools and the space in which to use them, the community can and will manage itself and keep things running with little to no oversight. We've also learned that communities are all about the people, not the platform, and that's informed our decision for moving forward.

The Road Ahead

Taking a cue from past collaborative decision-making projects, we want to help facilitate this community's decision on how to move forward. To that end, we'll be setting a process by which the community elects a board made up of community members to make decisions on behalf of the community through this transition period:

July 19:Omidyar Network creates a new group called Transition focused specifically on this decision-making process. The elections process for members to begin selecting board members begins.
Aug 3 - 7:Elections for the board via a poll in the Transition group.
Aug 7:Board convenes under Robert's Rules of Order (link to Wikipedia entry) to begin making the decisions related to how and where omidyar.net community members will continue their good work. A partial list of the decisions to be made is included in the section below.
Sep 7:All interactive features of the omidyar.net platform will be removed.
Sep 7 - Dec 31:Visitors to omidyar.net will be able to access the content, but they'll also be referred to the new community spaces as chosen by the elected board. All the content that's been created through September 7 will be archived, in place. Tools to enable omidyar.net members to easily download all their own content will remain available through the end of the year.
Dec 31, 2007:The content of omidyar.net will be removed from public access.

The good works of this community will live on after the omidyar.net platform is archived, but how and where it lives on is up to you, the members of the community to decide.

Board Election Process

  • Who can be on the board? Any omidyar.net member can be nominated to be a member of the community board.
  • Who can vote for the board? To vote for the members of the board, a member must meet the following eligibility qualifications as of July 14, 2007:
  • added a name (real or pseudonym) to their profile page
  • been a member of omidyar.net for six months
  • signed on in the last sixty (60) days.

The list of eligible voters can be found on this eligible voters page.

  • How's the board selected? After the vote, the top five vote-getting members will be recognized as the board and will make decisions on behalf of the community.
  • What does the board do? Under Robert's Rules of Order, the board chooses a Chair and then begins tackling the decisions related to transitioning to new platforms.

Decisions the Board Will Need to Make

Whether the omidyar.net community moves to one or to many new platforms, the board will need to decide at least the following (note: this is just a partial list):

  • how to consider community input in decision-making processes
  • how to identify groups within omidyar.net that will become new communities or join existing ones elsewhere
  • where to move (selecting a new name, choosing a platform, acquiring hosting, etc.)
  • how to pay for the costs of running new communities (if there are any)
  • where the omidyar.net home page will direct visitors once the content is archived on September 7, 2007.

On a personal note, it's been an honor and a pleasure for Haney and me to be a part of the community with you all over the last three years. We've met people here that have helped us think, plan and act in ways that have made us better for our interactions. We hope, in some small way, that others have benefited from our interactions in similar ways.

The next few months present a great opportunity to find ways to amplify the good works started via the omidyar.net community. How this happens is ultimately up to you, but we look forward to participating in new communities with you on the other side of this process.

[note: edited this on 7/19 to add links to new Transition group]



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By Jean Russell (CCAL30) (3614), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:10:03 PDT
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It has been my honor and pleasure to be here, meet so many amazing and inspiring people and see so many positive actions. Thank you for your generosity. Thank you for managing the community/communities. And thank you for giving me an opportunity to grow.

Thank you too for giving us an opportunity to self-organize for transition.

A huge thank you to my many friends and partners in conversation and collaboration. Looks like graduation day is here.

Methinks this is going to take some processing!


By Mark Grimes (4111), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:16:54 PDT
Comment feedback score: 23 (* * * * * * * * * *)

The people and the actions and the things that have transpired here over the last three years will be a special bond for everyone that was fortunate enough to truly and deeply engage. I count many among dozens of o/net members as friends I truly respect, trust, and admire.

What matters most? The people. The friendships. The actions. The friendships. The connections. The partnerships. The bonds.

Those things can and will live on.

This new situation seems to provide the opportunity to help branch out into a possible ever-growing network of networks. Not one, but many (I'm guessing).

Remember...

Not an ending, but an evolution.


By Michele -> kids+art+charity (CCAL30) (1010), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:19:01 PDT
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oh my goodness.


By Brad Byrne (CCAL30) (1378), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:21:40 PDT
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hmmmm, well, might as well get the 'negative' out of the way!

from the immediate negative view,

  • "Thanks for wasting my time for almost three years!! I'll send ya a bill" hehe!

from the positive, not sure yet, need to think past the obvious of "the great members met here", to see if anything "good" can come from this move.


By Brad Byrne (CCAL30) (1378), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:28:19 PDT
Edited: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:31:53 PDT
Comment feedback score: 0

Question #1,

Does Omidyar Network have intentions of providing server space and maintenance for these new communities? if so, can we chose our own platform?

note: this is primarily a security concern, will Omidyar Network be around to insure that the data and sites are kept intact?


By Lars Hasselblad Torres (3540), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:30:05 PDT
Comment feedback score: 25 (* * * * * * * * * *)

This news is disappointing - I've had the chance to poke around on the web quite a bit and I haven't found a place as easy, invigorating and compelling to use. Despite my history of contribution here, I don't feel like a moment of my time has been wasted - except perhaps in unproductive grousing... Best of luck to everyone, ON included, in your efforts to build and inspire new networks for action.

I do hope that O.net will find a way to make the zope development available to other users, perhaps as something like a quixote install wizard...?

also, if network members do find some 'magical' place beyond the rainbow to move to en masse, i hope that O.net will scrounge up some resources to help make any necessary tech upgrades effective.

cheers, and bon voyage - see you beyond the sea on some other island ;)


By Arthur Brock (CCAL30) (2066), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:31:59 PDT
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I'll be sad to see it end. But I'm interested in seeing what emerges. I think it is smart to support community sites which have a clear focus.

Will you continue to make the software plaform available for other communities?


By ted ernst (CCAL30) (2630), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:32:18 PDT
Comment feedback score: 24 (* * * * * * * * * *)

Thomas and ON staff, this is by far the best "shutdown" notice I've ever seen. While I've always found plenty to criticize, I value very highly your good faith efforts to respect this community and the work that's gone on here. The rest is just details that will be moot in a few months anyway.

As for the actual transition, I see little point in migrating the community as a whole. It seems far more likely that groups of people working on specific areas will migrate their work. My hope for the transition is that we make sure we all stay connected to those people/areas we care about. If we can do that, it's all be a success, including the transition.


By Evonne Heyning (CCAL30) (2442), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:35:29 PDT
Comment feedback score: 7 (* * * * * * *)

Absolutely Ted, and I echo Lars' sadness that the quality here will be hard to replicate anywhere else. Thank you for fostering this community and please do whatever we can together to migrate the useful resources compiled by us here into spaces where we can effectively communicate together again.

To all of you at Omidyar Network, thanks for your friendship and support as we grow new endeavors and communities.


By Michele -> kids+art+charity (CCAL30) (1010), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:37:22 PDT
Edited: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:40:03 PDT
Comment feedback score: 9 (* * * * * * * * *)

I am processing this big change.

And I echo everyone's good vibes about this very interesting and wonderful community.

It's an interesting proposal as an evolution to divide in many different directions.

However, one thing I will really miss is the cross-pollination. I hope that the board - which we will choose ever so carefully - will consider that factor and perhaps find a way via technology for the transparent sharing of ideas.

In the future, even though our interests may be divided, I'd love to see something like Design Feed linking us all together. With tags.

Thank you to o/net for the 5 months I've shared here. I feel very blessed to have met quite an extraordinary group of friends and colleagues here that i believe will be lifelong connections.


By Thomas Kriese (CCAL30) (2314), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:45:01 PDT
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Brad Byrne asked:
Does Omidyar Network have intentions of providing server space and maintenance for these new communities? if so, can we chose our own platform?

The choice of platforms is up to the members to make, as is the decision around where to find hosting.

Arthur Brock asked:
Will you continue to make the software plaform available for other communities?

We'll continue to make the source code available for anyone to download and use, but we won't continue to host the platform on our own servers.


By John Berger (CCAL30) (1000), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:48:50 PDT
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I am sorry to see this happen. I came here because it was the only site I could find that had a human trafficking discussion. While that turned out not to be the reason I stayed, it still is the only place with such a discussion

There are reasons that not that many folks come here, that Skoll has struggled with their forums, and that social topics on myspace facebook zaads etc are all a bunch of noise and not really worth the time.

I think that despite all the press and hype, there are very few people interested in social entrepreneurialism and fewer still that actual do it. For some reason the fact that this site was small and difficult to use helped keep it useful since it created a great forum for a core group of folks that clearly wanted to help each other out and learn from each other. I hope to stay in touch with that group. My personal preference would be not to attempt to split up into separate topic areas as I have seen absolutely no evidence that works elsewhere. So I hope this core group moves somewhere else.


By Alexandria B. (281), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:49:31 PDT
Comment feedback score: -1

Interesting plan of action, am looking foward to seeing what transpires.


By Brad Byrne (CCAL30) (1378), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:53:18 PDT
Edited: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:53:48 PDT
Comment feedback score: 11 (* * * * * * * * * *)

Thomas Kriese said:

Brad Byrne asked:
Does Omidyar Network have intentions of providing server space and maintenance for these new communities? if so, can we chose our own platform?
Thomas reply's:
"The choice of platforms is up to the members to make, as is the decision around where to find hosting."

well, Thomas maybe I'm reading it wrong, but that appears like there is no real evolution planned, but more simply a shut down, am I wrong?


By Alexandria B. (281), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:01:36 PDT
Comment feedback score: 14 (* * * * * * * * * *)

Considering that this platform created networking with individuals and organizations throughout the world, it is a definite disruption of supporting projects many have been working as a community.


By nmw (1876), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:04:39 PDT
Comment feedback score: 0

Gulp!!

(that's PG-13 for my initial reaction! ;)

My second reaction is:

WOW !!!

What an incredibly positive choice!!

This is putting so much trust into the community!!

This is fabulous!

Now let me get back to reading -- since I have to figure out what I just read (I spent like 2 minutes to reach this point, now I'll have to look in more detail and also all of the community responses.

Still: My initial gut feeling is both surprise and also greatly impressed !!!

:D nmw


By Thomas Kriese (CCAL30) (2314), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:06:32 PDT
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The evolution I see is in how the community of people (not in the platform itself) decides where to migrate to continue their work.

The platform itself (the technology) will be shut down at the end of the year after members have had a chance to download all the content they've contributed here.

We're launching tools by the end of the week that will make it a one-click operation to download an archive of all the content you've ever contributed to omidyar.net, or to download the entire contents of a group on omidyar.net.


By Jean Russell (CCAL30) (3614), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:12:49 PDT
Tags:  to-answer
Comment feedback score: 19 (* * * * * * * * * *)

Do we need to be members or owners of a group? What version of the workspaces will download? Will it come with revisions? what about tagging? what about polls and file uploads? for some us the massive amount of information (or is that my ego talking) would take a long time...can we download chunks? will we know the chunk size of information we are downloading? will there be assistance in moving that information elsewhere? is some group wants to take the whole site, can they? even if other groups want to go elsewhere? is that up to the board?

If you have a story to tell about people, projects, or onet itself, I encourage you to post them in Community Stories: http://www.omidyar.net/group/com munity_stories/. Feel free to create threads for each person or project.


By Brad Byrne (CCAL30) (1378), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:15:24 PDT
Comment feedback score: 0

it will be interesting how the press treats this, if any?


By Stephanie Paone (CCAL30) (405), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:17:38 PDT
Comment feedback score: 11 (* * * * * * * * * *)

I have felt so connected to the world through Omidyar.net

I thoroughly enjoyed being able to pursue my personal interests, as well as to check in on the current interests of others that I have come know and respect in this community.

Although it seems like it will be harder to keep up with the different groups once they are not all "under one roof", I will continue to seek out many different people/groups after September. A list is forming in my mind...

It has been my priviledge to have participated here.


By Anne Marie Bellavance (CCAL30) (2233), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:20:08 PDT
Tags:  magical opportunity purpose
Comment feedback score: 19 (* * * * * * * * * *)

thank you for offering this magical place in which i discovered myself and found so many others with the deep heartfelt passion to make a difference. thank you for sharing your voices and honoring mine. thank you for allowing 3 years to pass so those relationships could deepen. thank you for setting the bar for what i prefer in any future community i choose to engage in. thank you for presenting an opportunity for a fresh start beginning from such a stronger sense of purpose. The shared knowlege here has opened my mind and heart wider than I ever thought possible - i am emotional but trust this again is just another beginning of more good things manifesting. thank you for the relationships I know will continue......... mushpot today ~ logistics tomorrow


By Rory Turner (CCAL30) (1114), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:27:28 PDT
Tags:  poetic praise
Comment feedback score: 27 (* * * * * * * * * *)

Much to be said about this, and much that we all need to hear and feel.

A strong possibility for transition would be to move the source code to another server and manage the site ourselves, moidifying the interface as needed.

We should also have some conversations around other possible platforms. Like Lars, I have found none better. This site for all its flaws breathes, it allows both focus and freedom, and it amptly reveals itself, though coyly, it must be said. But at least it does open through these loose dizzying threads in ways that email lists and most forums do not.

I hope Thomas and Haney are ok with this change, what will you guys be doing?

I do think that evolution, transformation, revitalization are helpful frames rather than "shutting down," closing, etc.

I think it is worth considering what possible relationship to the LLC whatever emerges will have.

Lets be kind with each other in this transition and keep the fires of caring kindled that brought us together in these troubled but hopeful times. We will look back on all of this as something so precious.


By nmw (1876), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:31:21 PDT
Tags:  belushi
Comment feedback score: 11 (* * * * * * * * * *)

I hadn't read all of your responses before:

Why all of the negative mentality? Is there a sense here that the P&P are pulling the plug?

Have any of you been able to discover your own power to make good things happen?

If not, don't you think it would be reasonable to consider this project a failure?

If so, then


By Lars Hasselblad Torres (3540), Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:39:00 PDT
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Thomas wrote:
The evolution I see is in how the community of people (not in the platform itself) decides where to migrate to continue their work.

I think this is a really tough proposition to migrate O.net users, because there isn't one distinct "community" here. I'd say there are several (LiA, Foodchain, Network Weaving, etc), with - in some cases - overlapping interests. As a result, I am not certain 'the community of people' will be able to decide on a place to migrate.

I propose that every existing group that considers itself a "community" decide where it would like to go, and work with O.net to make that migration work smoothly based on their needs.

The platform itself (the technology) will be shut down at the end of the year after members have had a chance to download all the content they've contributed here.

We're launching tools by the end of the week that will make it a one-click operation to download an archive of all the content you've ever contributed to omidyar.net, or to download the entire contents of a group on omidyar.net.

That sounds pretty groovy!


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