thanks for putting this together! I see how this can be very useful for individuals and posts. I would like to be able to see group-wide, how many of the owners have signed on...would that be possible? I need to be able to track easily who still needs to be asked (and I take responsibility for tracking who gives what permissions for what content--though that will be a mighty big task, I expect).

Jean ~ Nurture Girl ~ Russell said:

thanks for putting this together! I see how this can be very useful for individuals and posts. I would like to be able to see group-wide, how many of the owners have signed on...would that be possible? I need to be able to track easily who still needs to be asked (and I take responsibility for tracking who gives what permissions for what content--though that will be a mighty big task, I expect).

If I understand what you want correctly then I think you'll be able to go to the homepage of a group and click "about" and quickly see which names have signed up for the license.

yes please. can I do that now?

You should be able to after the feature is implemented next week.

Nice. Very helpful, thank you.

Is there any easy way to know the names of all the people who have posted within a group? This will get me owners or owners and members. There are others who post too. It would be awesome to be able to see progress on getting permission for the whole group. That would help us organize moving groups. Thank you Haney!

Jean ~ Nurture Girl ~ Russell said:

Nice. Very helpful, thank you.

Is there any easy way to know the names of all the people who have posted within a group?

I see how this would be valuable but it's not currently in the works. Perhaps this is something the Board could suggest.

Thanks for the suggestion Haney. Are you only taking feedback from the board under consideration? I don't feel like we have time to wait for the the board to be formed or to make decisions. I am working in a doacracy, and I am doing. Now. But I can suggest it to the board when they come online in mid-August.

Jean ~ Nurture Girl ~ Russell said:

Thanks for the suggestion Haney. Are you only taking feedback from the board under consideration? I don't feel like we have time to wait for the the board to be formed or to make decisions.

We welcome feedback and it's true that if we added a feature like this then sooner is better. We'll take a look but unclear if it will happen.

By the way, you can now see a list of contributors to each discussion when you download the content of a group. By the end of the week - August 3 - this list should include the indication of which ones have signed up to license their content.

Thanks Haney! This is a great add!

I have noticed that some people are deleting content. I just want to confirm that we have three options for downloading, we can grab content from pre-announcement, during this period, and again as it is frozen in September?

So we can still get content that has been deleted from workspaces during this time? We just don't have access to the revision history on any of the downloads, right?

Jean ~ Nurture Girl ~ Russell said:

Thanks Haney! This is a great add!

I have noticed that some people are deleting content. I just want to confirm that we have three options for downloading, we can grab content from pre-announcement, during this period, and again as it is frozen in September?

You will be able to choose from three versions of the content to download - July 17, August 10 and September 7

So we can still get content that has been deleted from workspaces during this time? We just don't have access to the revision history on any of the downloads, right?

That is correct. After Sept. 7, you won't have access to the revision history.

The CC license feature is implemented and you can find more information at the Allowing Others to Copy Your Content workspace.

I have not signed-up for the CC license (yet) because all my comments and workspace pages are already covered by another license - a Rights Office license and a discussion of how this works can be found here.

In addition I wonder if a CC Attribution-NonCommercial license would be better?

My Rights Office licenses is different from the Creative Commons Attribution license in a number of respects:

• I have specified different licenses for different content. General comments are covered by one license and some individual workspace pages are covered by others.
• The license identifiers (URLs) point to where further permissions can be found. (i.e. My email address can be found so that you can ask me if you can reproduce my work)
• Once the CC license is applied to a work anyone can, from then on, claim that license whereas the Rights Office license is always directs the licence to an individual or organization. Hence, I can have more control of some of my workspace pages that contain specific business plans.
• There are plans for a 'Public Domain' Rights Office license that would provide equivalent licensing to the CC-Attribution license but sadly this is not implemented yet due to lack of funding.

Of course, the problems of dealing with more than one license system, especially one that is not well established yet, during this busy transition period might not work which is why I still considering signing up for the CC license because on the whole I have no problems with transferring all my comments to another platform.

Nicholas, I would say your final statement is the most important. If I have to email you about every specific comment or edit you've ever made, and others were to follow your model, and I'd have ot email each of them individually as well, it would never work. How is this different from now, where I can email you to ask you? Ah, I don't have your email address. :-) I wonder if there's a way to CC-by some of your works, and use your more restrictive license in other places.

Congratulations! So far omidyar.net members have put 51% of all comments/discussions under Creative Commons Attribution License 3.0.

Check the Allowing Others to Copy Your Content workspace for more info.

ted ernst (CCAL30) said:

Nicholas, I would say your final statement is the most important.

Under the current circumstances you are probably right which is why I am considering my options and probably will join in with the Creative Commons license.

If I have to email you about every specific comment or edit you've ever made, and others were to follow your model, and I'd have ot email each of them individually as well, it would never work. How is this different from now, where I can email you to ask you? Ah, I don't have your email address. :-)

I was just pointing out that everything I have published on this site was already licensed (all my comments are lumped under one license) and that there was a way for anyone to ask permission to reuse any of them by clicking on the license URL and asking. Had everyone here been using this license then a new site using this content would have to email everyone to get permission but this is not much different to o.net PM-ing or creating a system message that asks everyone to sign up to CC?

The interesting point was that under my license I was ahead of the game. Omidyar.net already had permission to copy my contributions to another organization or to put them in an archive somewhere so a CC license was not necessary for them to close operations and still make the content available. Any new entity would have to ask me before they republish anything however there would be a link to my email address.

All this is rather academic at this stage but it is the reason why I joined o.net three years ago. Three years ago I was trying to contact Ebay because at the time they were trying to get into electronic music distribution and needed to deal with all the rights issues. I thought I had an inventive way for them to do this without the need for restrictive DRM. This lead me to research Pierre, which lead me to o.net, which lead me to believe that if I posted my ideas here and they were any good they would 'bubble up to the top' and someone would take notice. Did it work? :-(

I wonder if there's a way to CC-by some of your works, and use your more restrictive license in other places.

I'm working on this.

Edit - Adding this link to further discussion of these issues.