Thanks for starting this, Lars, and thanks for helping us understand more about Razoo, Rebecca.

I have a question about the target audience for Razoo.

On your About Us page under the Our Platforms section, you state, "Razoo focuses on reaching the next generation of change agents and leaders - the 18-35 year olds - with the message that giving and serving is fun, easy, and meaningful."

As someone who has a bit more gray hair than the next generation of 18-35 year olds, what kind of experience might I expect on Razoo as a current generation change agent? Are there mentoring opportunities? Is there an "old folks" group to join?

Good question Thomas. I too have more grey hair than I want to admit and as of yet, refuse to actually refer to myself as an "old folk". But I guess I am. I have joined Razoo but in poking around the site I did get the feeling that the members tend to be a bit young, or at least younger than I am. Nothing wrong with youth mind you, I love working with young people. But I am a little concerned about finding kindred souls to partner with and about the depth of the causes proposed. Lets face it, lowering the drinking age to 18 is not high on my list of priorities. That cause seems to very popular at Razoo.

How will Razoo cater to us "old folks" ? How welcome will we be?

Hey, whacha talking about? I'm proud of my greying hair. In fact, I'm proud of whatever hair I still have :-)

I have felt extremely welcome at Razoo, and made a number of connections. Razoo is definitely in Beta, and there are some minor glitches. However, I think it's a great platform to consider.

From my perspective as a Network Weaver, it's not necessarily a question of only using one platform. Different platforms have different advantages. Our Network Weavers Network has not yet settled on one specific platform for our "overall" discussions. We may or may not decide on one such place. Razoo is one of the contenders, as will be Ned, and possibly others. But we already have other Network Weavers groups on platforms including Facebook, and I expect that to continue.

So, my current feeling is that, for individuals concerned with social change, Razoo is one of the good platforms to explore. But, for groups, you may want to consider a number of platforms before making a specific choice.

What is Rebecca's user name here on Onet?

Hm, good question David: Thomas, if she hasn't joined can she still sign up some how?

Lars, unfortunately, no, Rebecca can't sign up now, as we've disabled the registration feature. Any chance you can channel her responses?

Wait, I might have a solution to that.

Rebecca, I am already on Razoo. Yesterday I looked through some actions I could take. It was easy to knock off a dozen things I am already doing to make the world a better place. Are there any thresholds for these actions? Does drinking organic milk, which I do, mean I have taken an action...and is that just as good as contributing 10% of my income to social justice? Could you explain that star system?

And if I do 5 actions that have one star is that the same as doing one action with five stars?

I think the site looks beautiful, and I am amazed at all the capability. Thanks!

I just got a message via Razoo from Rebecca:

Hi Jean,

Thanks for the question you posted on the O.net discussion board about Razoo. I am not able to respond to posts b/c I am not an O.net member (and can't sign up since that functionality has been closed). Would you mind posting a note to the group on that board to let them know I'm not ignoring their questions, but that I'm just waiting for Lars (or others) to find a way for me to be able to respond? I don't want folks to think we're not being responsive!

Thanks for your help, and I hope to be able to respond tomorrow!

Cheers, rebecca

Rebecca, I would be happy to post what you send me. If you want to be quoted...you certainly responded fast enough for me!

Okay, I am confused. Who is the person I see signed in online as Rebecca whose profile says she is the community program manager at Razoo. Are there two Rebeccas?

We are working on setting up and account for her, Evvy. Thanks for your patience in this, folks... And thanks Dav for helping to find a solution!

I sent Rebecca her username and password via razoo. Hopefully she gets it and it works ok.

May I ask: how many extra identities did you have up here Dav???

Dav in Phoenix (CCAL30) said:

I sent Rebecca her username and password via razoo. Hopefully she gets it and it works ok.

Yes you may. :) Now that I've given that one to Rebecca, I have no other accounts.

I opened this other account when I was taking a leadership training course, with the intention that everyone in that class would use that account. I made one post with that account to show my classmates how it's done. As it turned out, at the same time someone else in the class started a yahoo group and we ended up using that instead, so this account wasn't used, but I still had the password.

I thought about the possibility of opening lots of accounts and giving myself lots of points. But I noticed that it's actually a violation of the user agreement. And plus, it'd be hard to get away with because if you give yourself lots of points it shows up. That's one cool thing about o/net.

You might be able to get away with it by finding a user who is inactive, and then giving yourself the same name as them, and so when people saw them in your list of point givers, they wouldn't get suspicious. But if anyone did get suspicious and click on the name, they'd be taken to a different profile. You could fake the profile, but the "recent discussions" would be trickier. Anyway it could be done but it would take a lot of work and you'd probably get caught if you managed to accomplish anything worthwhile that way.

"leadership training course"? what the heck is that?

Dav in Phoenix (CCAL30) said:

Yes you may. :) Now that I've given that one to Rebecca, I have no other accounts.

I opened this other account when I was taking a leadership training course, with the intention that everyone in that class would use that account. I made one post with that account to show my classmates how it's done. As it turned out, at the same time someone else in the class started a yahoo group and we ended up using that instead, so this account wasn't used, but I still had the password.

I thought about the possibility of opening lots of accounts and giving myself lots of points. But I noticed that it's actually a violation of the user agreement. And plus, it'd be hard to get away with because if you give yourself lots of points it shows up. That's one cool thing about o/net.

You might be able to get away with it by finding a user who is inactive, and then giving yourself the same name as them, and so when people saw them in your list of point givers, they wouldn't get suspicious. But if anyone did get suspicious and click on the name, they'd be taken to a different profile. You could fake the profile, but the "recent discussions" would be trickier. Anyway it could be done but it would take a lot of work and you'd probably get caught if you managed to accomplish anything worthwhile that way.

Well, it's where I learned to listen to your substance, Harry!

You walk into class on day 1 and they say to you,

"Each of you is already a leader. And there are currently barriers in the way of you knowing yourself as a leader and being effective. This course is about removing those barriers."

OK, to be fair, 5 year olds don't have to learn this stuff, they get it automatically. So it's probably more accurate to call it unlearning than learning.

(I'm referring to my statement that I learned there how to listen to you. What I meant was that if you had met me before I took that course I was a lot less fun to be with than I am now! :)

Boy I could have saved you some money :)

http://exom.harrylyme.com/

harry@harrylyme.com

Boy I could have saved you some money :)

Please do! How?

Actually, saving money isn't my problem. I've always been a good saver. Like take this shirt I'm wearing. Bought it back in 1993. Still fits.

Today I had a can of green beans and two slices of bread for lunch. Some pasta with homegrown basil for dinner. I can live as cheap as any thirdworlder. uh, besides the computer. and the car. ok, and the cellphone and the air conditioner. and the chocolate. do thirdworlders get dark chocolate? did you know in Germany you can get a 100g bar of good dark chocolate for about 50 cents?

Well I'm actually not that much different -- nix the leadership classes :)

Well I'm actually not that much different

not different in what way?

Hey, speaking of touchy subjects, how about giving some points to Pierre? You could look at it as a final gesture of absolute inanity. :)

Dave, you passed up an opportunity to do something really interesting when you lost your will on the 60 yard line :) but that was your call:

As Thomas said: Pierre's long gone -- he checks in to participate on the internal network, not this one :)

You could have made a statement -- without doing any real harm to Pierre at all.

The "Leadership" class might have sent you a diploma -- but they forgot to include a set of balls :)

(I'd ask for a refund :)

Dav in Phoenix (CCAL30) said:

Well I'm actually not that much different

not different in what way?

Hey, speaking of touchy subjects, how about giving some points to Pierre? You could look at it as a final gesture of absolute inanity. :)

Would the guys rehearsing "Leadership for Geeks" (aka Harry and Dav) please use the open studio next door? We're rehearsing "Razoo Q&A" in here. Oh, and don't forget to take your balls with you...

Rebecca should be on in a few to address the questions that have been raised. Welcome R!

Well it was really fun but you had to be there... :)

OK, now I'm going to razoo to accept friend requests. I have lots of ideas about do-gooder sites like o/net and razoo. :)

Dav would you mind going into your friends on Razoo and accepting or declining friends? Thank you.

Also, do you have questions for Rebecca? I know you are full of ideas and questions about do-good-social-networks like Razoo and Onet.