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Blogging from Online Community Camp Too!
Posted to: Haney Armstrong (CCAL30) (1784) by Haney Armstrong (CCAL30) (1784), Fri, 26 May 2006 13:03:47 PDT
Edited: Fri, 26 May 2006 13:09:05 PDT
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Susan Megy and I went to ForumOne's Online Community Camp yesterday and it was very cool. Fort Mason in San Francisco is a wonderful place on the bay and I don't get over there often enough. A beautiful day.
Of course Omidyar Network was one of the sponsors so it had to be great.
Thanks to Jim Cashel a wonderful guy who organized the Camp.
There a total of nine sessions over three timeslots. My first one was:
Reputation and Ranking Systems – Identifying useful people and content
This session had about 50 people with no dominating presenters - rather short comments from perhaps 20 people. Jim Cashel moderated.
Three roles of rating
- signal information
- changes behavior – incentive effect
- attracts participation of high quality people
Reasons not to rate
- Ranking makes some veterans seem like expert and so prevents new people from participating
- It’s a disincentive for people who post rarely.
- Reputation is more of a popularity statement rather than quality reflection.
- Schwab Foundation – parents of kids with learning disabilities – doesn’t like reputation systems, since their kids get ranked low all the time. They only show how long has someone been on the site. they He have a group of core users who don’t want to be identified as core users – so they are not displaying how many total posts.
- On the Well, many people hate each other politically – they had to create anonymous judging and people hated it because they voted for people they didn’t like.
Techsoup's levels of recognition
Techsoup has come up with several stages where helpful members are reconized. If they post 200 time and if the Community Manager thinks they are good posts, then they get a star. The next step is that they get to be forum host, after that they can host an event and get more admin privileges like access to a private forum. At some point they start to receive $150 a month. Techsoup wants to figure out how to make it possible for the community to decide on who gets these priveledges.
Use of alias vs real name –
- Monster needs to be anonymous since people are looking for jobs.
- It’s also needed where people are oppressed.
- There’s a different model for people under 25 who don’t care about being anonymous – they use real names on places like MySpace.
- The Well wants to have people use their real name and others ferret out the people who don’t. The people who don’t use real names aren’t taken seriously, get accused of misleading others. It’s hard to mix the two.
Misc –
- A "That’s so you" button allows members can use it to show what others think is a typical post of a particular person then it shows up on their profile.
- Having a face-to-face component increases trust.
- It’s less disturbing to give negative comments on the content than on a user.
- Reputation is just how you are ranked but who you associate with – like Linked-In or buddy list.
- Consider giving more weight to the rating of those with higher ratings.
Please add your questions or comments and watch this space for the next two sessions.
By Haney Armstrong (CCAL30) (1784), Sat, 27 May 2006 17:15:26 PDT
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Session 2
Creating Evangelists and Growth
Moderated by Rob Labatt – ezBoard and Betty Ray – live365
- Locate the evangelists, empower, reward with inside knowledge
- Listen to the hacking/APIs, QA, and then add in – give them credibility
- Simplify registration – postpone as much of the info they have to provide until later
- Let members auto refer people and then give them credit
- Limit surveys to 10 questions - unless you give a prize as incentive
There was much more but most of it was only relevant to commercial communities.
By Haney Armstrong (CCAL30) (1784), Sat, 27 May 2006 17:25:22 PDT
Edited: Sat, 27 May 2006 17:31:02 PDT
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Session 3
What is web 2.0
Hosted by Kurt Voelker Forum One Communications
- Ajax technology is cool – uses javascript to prefetch information like Googlemaps – but if overused it can make a site too slow. Ajax can’t be tracked by analytic site.
- 2.0 means people participating at the edges of a site, like their own blogs associated with your site. Moving community beyond your site. XML feeds – digital life feeds. Profile should include your history in other communities.
- What long tail means – it’s easy to have many small communities and then connect them, move easily between them.
- Open API allows for things like mapping as a navigational element. Another is possibility is charting your activity over time –
- RSS is another way that information spills over the edge of a site. Leveraging content on other sites, delicious tags….
- You have to capture participation without requiring people to stick to your site.
- A drawback of RSS feeds is that they don’t include rich advertising in general so lower potential income. And certainly takes visual/layout control away from the ad designer.
- There is a 24-hour TV show in Finland made up entirely of text messages
- Most of the 2.0 technology has been around for awhile but the fact that people are connected in so many ways makes it appropriate to apply.
- In places in Africa, they aren’t going to build out broadband networks, but rather rely on cell phones for more and more and that will be their internet connection.
- Someone asked about using virtual worlds like Second Life as part of the community experience so I got to mention the overlap between omidyar.net and Second Life like Camp Darfur in Second Life.
And that's all folks - next up is netSquared on May 30 and 31. I'll try to be more real time in my blogging.
By nmw (1876), Sun, 28 May 2006 06:11:29 PDT
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Haney Armstrong said:
commercial communities
wow, that sounds kinda really funny -- what does it refer to?
By Haney Armstrong (CCAL30) (1784), Mon, 29 May 2006 21:22:09 PDT
Edited: Mon, 29 May 2006 21:24:17 PDT
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It seems that quite a few corporations encourage communities. It seems that many consumers have a huge brand loyalty and are willing to help in a variety of ways in exchange for product samples, etc: market via blogs , do some customer support and forums moderation, be on focus groups, etc.
The outdoory brand "Eddie Bauer" was mentioned. One of the moderators works on Live365.com.
Someone reccomended reading the "Church of the Customer" blog at http://www.customerevangelists.typepad.com
By Susan Megy (CCAL30) (1570), Tue, 30 May 2006 17:11:34 PDT
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Haney, you do such a good job of capturing the information - thanks!
By nmw (1876), Tue, 30 May 2006 23:28:16 PDT
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Yea -- Haney's tips don't lie....
;D nmw
By nmw (1876), Fri, 26 May 2006 14:35:45 PDT
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interesting link nmw pos disc 10
:D